Job, Jesus, #depression, and No Right Answers

 

Here we have Job, who is just too a good a guy it seems. Getting another dose from the devil.

Job is, at the very least, environmentally depressed. Environmental depression means that the atmosphere is so chaotic and hard that you are thrown into depression.

His wife, I would say, is more than environmentally depressed, she is probably clinically depressed from all of the stress they have undergone. Clinical depression can be triggered by environmental factors (stress, trauma, violence) but the chemical in your brain are not properly functioning.

1 in 10 Americans report being depressed. Probably more people experience it than are reported. The thing about depression, though, is that you can’t really reason your way out of depression. You can’t tell yourself that you just shouldn’t be that way and then stop.

Also, a problem with depression is that it can make you a nonfunctional being. Making you feel as if you should just stay in bed all day long.

Note: When you are coming out of depression, you actually have energy for the first time, which is why sometimes people attempt suicide when they start to become medicated. The medication doesn’t just fix the depression immediately (and oft should be accompanied by therapy). That’s why a side effect of medication can be suicide.

All these facts about depression, should be really well known, because many humans experience depression at one point or another during their lives. And depression, like any other major ongoing illness, whatever it be cancer, addiction or mental illness, cannot just be “fixed.” There is no “right answer” no way to just put someone back on track so they can get back to living their lives. It has been too disrupted. But because we don’t know what to do, many people hide the reality of living with longterm illness.

So, if the disasters in Job’s lives are atypical, his response to it, and the fact that no one knows how to cure his ills…is not.

This is brought sharply into focus by a week where Airplanes full of Aids researchers are brought done, factions are fighting more and more in Gaza and Ukraine and children are stuck in limbo at the United States border. No one has “THE” answer for these situations, if it was easy, we wouldn’t be arguing over it so hard.

So what do we do. What does Job do, when he has lost everything, is depressed and is so sick and cannot even afford the doctor? His wife tells him to “Curse God and Die”…to just give up….because she can no longer see anything worth living for….

His friends (at first) get it right. They simply sit with him.

They offer to no words of comfort, no solutions, no platitudes. The sit beside him, and keep quiet for 7 days, because his suffering is so great, there is no solution.

This is our call as human beings. When people suffer so greatly that we have no answers. When the situation is impossible, and there is literally no such thing as a “right” answer, a place where answers are useless.

Our job, at this time, is to sit with that person in need. To be present with them. To become fully aware of who they are and how they are suffering and to affirm to them that

“yes I can hear how you are suffering”

simply that, not try to argue against, fix or wipe away the worry. Because it really doesn’t matter if the voices that are threatening you are real or a delusion. All that matters is that those voices are causing pain and suffering that a person has to go thru.

Jesus knows this.

Jesus went thru depression, on Gethsame, when he looks at the task before him and he just wants to go home and go to bed.

Jesus knows what it is to experience human suffering, not because suffering is holy, or we have to suffer for Christ. No, Jesus experiences this as a human, because God knows our suffering. God also knows that to experience suffering as a human being is a way that God can minister to us. 

So God sent Jesus, and Jesus, being fully human, suffered. And when things got really bad, he got depressed.

And what did he want in that time “Friends sit with me while I pray”

This is our calling. Don’t Solve, sit. Don’t judge, listen. Don’t fidget, wait and Enact God’s love.

After all, haven’t all of us been Job at one time or another. And hasn’t Jesus been one of us at one time or another?

 

 

 

#Queer #God from #cisgaze perspective

Prayerful thoughts as my sister prepares for Trans Surgery

Queer means different, a different kind of God.

That’s the kind of God I know God to be, a God who is so varied that we MUST communicate with each other in order to start to grasp who Godself is.

This is why it is so VITAL to bring those who are different into the church,

I’m for the queer Church.

Because although I seem normative, I know that God made me unique.

 

#FaithFeminisms and #starwards

I am the pastor they are looking for…I’m just not the one they pictured (Feels like theres a joke in there)

 
 

luminous beings are we. Not this crude matter.

T2: If they give you any grief…wave your hand in front of their faces and say, “You don’t need to see my identification.”

MaryAnn McKibben Dana’s #pastorin3words

awesomeness abounds

Asked her to describe her job as a pastor in 3 words

She said…. non-anxious presence. witness to grace. being the grownup. naming the holy.

Then she posted on Facebook, what I think names my theology perfectly

MaryAnn McKibben Dana‘s status.
God is weird, all the time.
All the time, God is weird.

Um…my day is made!!!

YAY a GREAT Fairy Tale list

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/book-smugglers-guide-fantasy-young-readers/

 

Apparently I need to read “The City in the Lake” “Dragonswod” and “The Princess Curse” because those I have not yet read!

Great List! Read most of these. Also–some “older” titles that are lovely to pick up are! A Well Timed Enchantment and A Hidden Magic by Vivian Vande Velde Stardust by Neil Gaiman Of Two Minds by Carol Matas and Perry Nodelman
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Naked as the day you were born: Job 1:13-22

For Job becoming Naked as the day he was born means loss. Loss of status, loss of goods, loss of food and security

Loss of family<–that one really gets me

Loss of respect, Loss of manhood (esp. in that culture), loss of legacy, loss of history.

and Job says “Naked I came from my mother’s womb,
and naked I will depart.[c]
The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away;
may the name of the Lord be praised.”

i.e. naked as the day he was born. An oft heard expression. Here Job acknowledges that those things that he claimed, his wealth, his house, even his family were not actually secure. For security is actually in God.

We have experienced this in the financial crises, when all the “security” in our money went down the drain. We experienced this at 9/11 when we realized that terrorism can strike anyone at any time. We realize this when a family member experiences disease or struggle, such as cancer (or perhaps even more difficult addiction or mental illness). Why? Because none of these things were really secure to begin with. What is actually secure is God, and Job is able to acknowledge this.

The other oft quote passage from this is “the Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away” (KJV sounds so much more authoritative doesn’t it)

Here is where I think Job gets it wrong. Because its not God who is taking all these things away….

Its evil. Whether it be Satan or the challenger, evil is what is taking things from Job, NOT God.job07a job08

What I find interesting about this interchange is that it is easier for people to believe in evil than good. I have met many people who have all kinds of beliefs, who are far more able to believe in Evil and evil forces than in God or good forces.

But (as my son pointed out this morning) the Devil can’t take God from Job<–from the lips of a child.

So, here is the question. Why is it easier to believe in evil than good? Why is it easier to believe that it is God who is angry or vengeful than to believe in a fully good and loving God who makes good things happen even admidst the bad.

After all, As it is so well stated in Dr. Who…the good things don’t negate the bad, but GOOD things can happen in the midst of bad! The Bad things don’t have to ruin the good ones.

So here is the question, why is it easier to believe in evil than good?
And what does that mean? Where does that put us. I can’t believe that there isn’t good and purpose for humanity. Honestly, my mind can’t even get around it. Good is stronger than evil, and I, ultimately, believe in Good. The Good of our Loving God.

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